Living in Spain after Brexit
Today’s post shines a light on some of the issues widely believed to affect living in Spain after Brexit and what actions you should take as a Brit if you already live here, have a property but don’t live full-time, or if you’ve emigrated to sunny Spain to enjoy your retirement.
Latest Brexit news
Regardless of whether you’re a staunch Brexiteer or a Bremoaner like me, Tuesday’s news that Boris Johnson’s Withdrawal Agreement Bill had been definitively passed in the House of Lords and will be enshrined in law was a breath of fresh air. On 21st January 2020, almost exactly three and a half years after the controversial referendum, Brexit got done.
So, now that Prime Minister Johnson’s deal is good to go – an eventuality I, for one, was always rather doubtful of – Britain will be leaving the EU as planned next Friday 31st January. While the nation rests safe in the knowledge that the departure is imminent, its citizens living (or planning to move) abroad have some burning questions.
In this post I look at three questions that might be pertinent for Brits who – either permanently or otherwise – will be living in Spain after Brexit. The first of these is a real hot potato…
1. Will I have to get residency in Spain?
I’ve received several messages in recent times from concerned Brits asking for my advice as to whether or not to seek residency for living in Spain after Brexit. And, of course, the answer to this question depends entirely on your circumstances and the time frame in which you’re thinking of moving abroad, plus how long you'll be spending there.
As I’ve said before, if you already live full-time in Spain you’ve got until the end of the year to get your little green paper residency card (you get this by virtue of being an EU citizen… for now). This applies for anyone, in fact, who spends more than 3 months in Spain, so it’s a bit naughty if you have extended stays here and haven’t already got one.
For everyone else, the general guidance is to obtain Spanish residency, yes. By securing your residency card and then getting on your local town hall’s civil register (called empadronamiento in Spanish), you cover your own back legally - especially if you spend more than 183 days in Spain per year - and you'll save yourself more paperwork, red tape and headaches than if you were to wait until after the so-called "Brexit transition period" deadline on 31st December 2020.
Freedom of movement
Furthermore, the Conservative Party’s policy to end the principle of “free movement of persons between the UK and EU” may have spooked some people. The idea of only being allowed to stay in EU countries for a maximum of 90 days in any 180-day period without having to apply for a visa might seem like a huge step backwards in what is an increasingly global society.
And I believe it is. But, unfortunately, my opinion is of no significance. The salient fact is that being a British national and having residency in Spain is your passport to staying here for more than three months a year. It could also work out to be hugely beneficial for your travel within the Eurozone, too, as well as giving you tax advantages with property, access to free healthcare and an additional form of ID that's recognised by all official entities.
2. What will happen to the value of the pound?
And why is this significant?
Economists agree that, while Britain’s departure with a deal has, and will, continue to bolster the pound in the short term, its fluctuation in the mid- to long-term will hinge on its ability to secure meaningful and lucrative trade deals with countries within the European bloc as well as further afield.
By coming out of the EU customs union and vying for a free trade agreement with any nation that wants to do business with the UK, Johnson’s Withdrawal Agreement Bill, for many, steps quite far out of the comfort zone we’ve become used to.
Let’s hope that PM Johnson showing his hand doesn’t result in it metaphorically being bitten off by traditionally big trading nations; an eventuality that would be catastrophic for British businesses. Losing trade means losing investors, and this would have an abject effect on the markets and, consequently, the value of the sterling... which, of course, would impact on Brits living in Spain after Brexit.
Positive outlook
Despite this scaremongering, experts believe Brexit will, ultimately, have a negligible impact on the pound; in part due to the amount of time involved in the whole process.
Let me put this point into context. Here we are, at a time when some people are probably still hungover from this New Year’s Eve, and the transition period doesn’t even end until the first round of shots are brought out on 31st December 2020… so we shouldn’t see a drastic change in behaviour come 31st January.
In any event, most Britain-EU trade deals will take up to three years to hash out, so expect currency changes to be like most people’s New Year’s resolution for alcohol: little and not-so-often.
However, delving into currency like this is only relevant because of question three’s reliance on it…
3. How will Brexit affect my savings and pension?
Evidently, if you live abroad and are living off savings or a pension fund in the UK, your purchasing power is closely linked to the strength of the pound, as mentioned above. At the time of writing, said value has crept up to around €1.185 to the pound – the highest it’s been since Boris Johnson’s landslide win in the general election in mid-December – so Brits with savings in UK banks will largely be pleased with the amount they are able to exchange.
With regards to pensions – more specifically, access to your UK pension living abroad – the Conservative Party’s Withdrawal Agreement clearly states that Brexpats moving to Europe during the transition period won’t be “disadvantaged in their access to pensions, benefits, and other forms of social security, including healthcare cover”1.
In short, there will be no change. British expats in Spain moving (and gaining residency status) before the end of this year will have the same welfare rights as they currently do. They are – rather humorously – referred to in the Withdrawal Agreement as the “protected cohort”. Sounds more like Game of Thrones than House of Commons, but that’s by the by.
“What about from 2021 onwards?”, I hear you say…
Try as I might, I’ve been unable to find anything approaching a detailed answer to this question. The rights of those wishing to retire to Spain after the transition deadline are “the subject of future negotiations”, according to official sources; although common sense dictates some generous reciprocal provision will be made.
To reiterate, nothing is set in stone. The issue of UK retirees being able to draw a pension in Spain for relocations post-31st December 2020 hasn’t made it to the negotiating table yet, let alone details such as whether the statutory annual increment on State Pensions will be honoured.
Of course, this is not an exhaustive list of issues affecting your rights and living in Spain after Brexit. Instead, it is an insight into some of the possible economic and bureaucratic changes that prospective and existing expats will have to acclimatise themselves to.
Do you have anything to add? Or do you feel that I’ve missed something out? I’d love to hear your thoughts about living abroad post-Brexit in the comments below!
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stephen bryantJuly 17, 2021 at 9:13 pm
Hi We are a British couple who have lived in France for over 22 years. we have French residency and are in the French system. We pay French tax, social security and receive health care and French pension etc. can you tell me if we can use this to obtain Spanish residency , and purchase a property Thanks Steve
Alwyn BerryJanuary 13, 2021 at 4:31 pm
My wife and I are considering moving to Spain, we would like to move to Torreblanca as we have been on holiday there for about 1 years now and love the place, we are both pensioners. Could we still move to Spain?
chris malcomsonDecember 11, 2020 at 6:58 am
I've lived in Spain for 10 years without residencia although I've got an NIE and Padron for this whole period. As a self employed person i make all my money in the US. Now they are asking for an income of nearly 20,000 euro's to get residencia. I don't have that kind of money so can't apply.. I'm now wondering if I'll get kicked out of Spain after brexit day...
Joe HoganNovember 19, 2020 at 10:11 am
I bought my place in Spain from Viva in 2012 - great service and appreciate this helpful advice. I am a Brit and am not on the pardon (at least I don't think so) I pay my taxes for refuse and sewage etc at Tenencia de Alcaldía Las Chapas. I am considering flying in to register officially next week, I assume at the main police station and Tenencia de Alcaldía in Las Chapas. Will these be open in the current COVID restrictions. I guess I need deeds, NIE and passport, anything else? Thanks, Joe
YourVIVA teamNovember 27, 2020 at 4:04 pm
philip GarnierOctober 11, 2020 at 3:49 pm
I'm currently in Spain traveling and would like to know if i have to leave in the 31st or if I can stay for the 90 day visa free period then leave?
VIVA TeamOctober 13, 2020 at 9:41 am
JaneAugust 27, 2020 at 12:28 am
Hi Simon, can I apply for residency in spain over in the uk? I am looking to move arkund May 2021. I want to move permanently to Malaga and work there, so how cab I get a bank account and N.I.E? Could you give me info on any if possible... Thankyou
ClaireNovember 27, 2020 at 1:14 pm
AnnaJuly 28, 2020 at 4:16 pm
Hi, we lived in Spain for years (worked for Viva for a while) and returned to the UK in 2014 for personally reasons. We were planning to return this year the covid hit. The question I have is, if he was to come over later in the year to get an appointment to get registered and stayed there but I couldn't come over until the new year, would that work? Would I still be able to get residency due to his status as his wife, can a notary act on my behalf? Thanks, any help would be appreciated. 😁
VIVA TeamJuly 29, 2020 at 12:43 pm
JAMES MITCHELLJuly 19, 2020 at 7:40 pm
looking to buy and move to spain early 2021 , i have british and irish passports but the wife only has a british passport, were do we stand on moving to spain on a permanant basis in 20121
AnthonyDecember 2, 2020 at 11:16 am
AnthonyDecember 2, 2020 at 11:18 am
JohnJune 20, 2020 at 12:38 am
Hi my wife and I were planning to retire to Spain next year but may bring it forward to ensure we are covered by existing EU citizens rights, we do not own or rent property in Spain at this time. Is it possible to start the residency ball rolling from the U.K. given the current COVID 19 restrictions
VIVA TeamJuly 29, 2020 at 1:00 pm
October 7, 2020 at 1:15 am
Nicky ThomsonJune 19, 2020 at 2:18 pm
Hi there, can you tell me if it possible to get Spanish residency and spend more than 3 months in Spain but less than the required 183 days there so as to be still fiscally resident in UK please. I am looking to get the Spanish residency under the EU withdrawal agreement and spend considerable time in Spain but will not potentially be able to make the move more permanent for another 1 - 2 years.
VIVA TeamJuly 29, 2020 at 12:57 pm
Paul LambMay 25, 2020 at 9:47 am
Hi- I am a little naive when it comes to things like this so any advice would be appreciated-I am 56 years old and have had a house in Nueva Andalucia for 5 years so bank accounts, council tax , annual tax return etc are all up and running. I'm not sure , if in the future , I will be spending more than 3 months at a time in Spain so was wondering if there is any downside (taxes or such like) to just applying for residency even if theoretically I may not be using it? Your advice would be much appreciated ! Thanks Paul
Sharon fordMay 20, 2020 at 9:13 am
Hi there. I’m considering moving to Spain but it’ll be after 2021. Will I still be able to have my dream as the news in the UK today has indicated there would be issues returning to the U.K. but I cannot glean anywhere as to why? I would be very grateful for clarification. Warm thanks
October 7, 2020 at 1:18 am
Sian PriceMay 17, 2020 at 2:12 pm
Hi, I brought a caravan in Spain and was looking to move there permanently this year with contacts for Jobs as I already have my nie, I was also going to apply for residency but for obvious reasons this has now all been out on hold due to Covid! Is there anything I can do from here in England as regards to my residency as it does not look like I will be able to get there this year now. Regards Sian
VIVA TeamMay 20, 2020 at 9:36 am
Gillian HomeriMay 16, 2020 at 10:26 am
We had a residency permit when we lived in Spain between 2005 and 2012 and still have it. Also we are still on the padron in our village, We had to come back to the UK in 2013 as my parents needed support. Sadly they have now passed away. We want to go back to our home in Spain and settle down there again. But we are older people ourselves and too afraid to hop in the car with our pooch and drive down. If we are unable to get away this year (because of the virus) will we have left it too late?
MarkMay 11, 2020 at 5:53 am
Hi ..i have a business in the uk which i can run remotely from Spain ,where do i stand in terms of residency
james allenMarch 11, 2020 at 2:31 pm
British pensioner applied for residency in Barcelona and was told need 5538 euros in Spanish bank account
MichaelaFebruary 26, 2020 at 8:21 pm
Hi Simon, This Brexit thing is very confusing for me. I also am a Canadian and we don't get a lot of news regarding it here. I have a EU passport due to my parents and entire family being born in England. I have my updated red British EU passport which isn't up for expiry for 8 more years. I have always wanted to retire in Spain or even spent 6 months of the year escaping from our Canadian winters. What should I do regarding paperwork before the end of 2020 in order to be able to live in Spain? is there something I should due before that due date? I would love any help as I am completely confused about this. I was so excited for my EU passport when I first got it and now I feel let down that my dreams might be shattered. Please help.
SimonFebruary 27, 2020 at 10:06 am
Stephen DoddsFebruary 11, 2020 at 10:44 am
Dear Sirs, I know you will be very busy answering a lot of questions about Brexit, but just wondered if you could answer a few for me. As a pensioner what documents would I need to apply for Spanish residency. As a pensioner can you be resident in both the UK and Spain. As a pensioner can you use the UK NHS and the Spanish Health System with an S1 form. As a pensioner can you move freely as a Spanish resident and UK resident without visas. I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. Regards Stephen Dodds
SimonFebruary 11, 2020 at 12:17 pm
Arthur JamesJanuary 31, 2020 at 8:48 am
Hi. My wife and I have just competed the purchase of a property in Sitio de Calahonda. We started the purchase process of a new community build property two years ago and our intention was to spend up to six months of the year in Spain the rest in UK. I am a little confused as to whether or not this will still be possible (viz the 183 day rule) without having to take up residency. Can you offer any updated insight into this. Regards.
SimonJanuary 31, 2020 at 9:22 am
SimonJanuary 28, 2020 at 4:45 pm
Hi Simon,. I don't have a bank account for all my transactions I used a notary. Is there a bank I can set up on-line? I have a NIE number and I pay a tax already to the town hall " council tax' rubbish collection, lighting etc. So I'm in the system of sorts.. once I have set up a self employed can I still to and fro between Spain and UK while I get my stuff together? Regards Simon
SimonJanuary 31, 2020 at 9:08 am
simon duckerJanuary 28, 2020 at 1:54 pm
I have 2 small properties in Aragon, the plan was to move to Spain later in the year, renovate them and rent them out. I also plan to be self employed in the building industry. I'm not sure where I stand, I hear so my conflicting things. Any advice would be great. Regards Simon
SimonJanuary 28, 2020 at 2:31 pm
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